I’d never heard anyone say that until I came to work in Center City years ago. The grass needs mowed. Those clothes need washed. (Note, for instance, that Mr. Matthews’ “oo” sound–as in “goose”–varies in terms of frontness). Philadelphia natives who work in media and entertainment often assimilate to the General American broadcast standard. The word “yous” is only used by some Philadelphians from Northeast & South Philly. I really don’t want to argue with a complete stranger about this, but I can assure you that I know where I’m from P.S. It might still be thought of as Western, though.I’m from Philly originally, and dated someone from Erie. After living in Western PA for a decade and marrying a Pittsburgher, it seeped into my own speech patterns.
It is completely normal in south central PA, Lancaster, York, Cumberland, Dauphin, Franklin counties, and more.
I heard it there for the first time when a neighbor said, “The lawn needs mowed.” I eventually learned to like the construction — which is leaner: ‘needs to be mown’ or ‘needs mowed’?I am a Philly native and I never *ever* in my entire life heard anyone drop the infinitive (as in, “this needs verbed”) until I moved to Pittsburgh. I can’t be sure of this since I was born after the movie was filmed, but I intuitively got the sense that only men talked this way, and only men who identified with a sense of “toughness”. I purposely pronounce it as “water,” b/c it’s a dead giveaway as to where I’m from. Etc.
Then g’downashore.” Which translates to: Go down Passyunk Avenue to Anthony’s water ice, get a cherry water ice and a chessesteak with cheese wiz, half with onions and half without onions. The reason new Yorkers and south philadelphians sound so similar is because the Italian immigrants largely shaped both areas. The way Irish immigrants largely shaped the accent in Boston. The “needs swept” thing is from Northwestern PA.
It’s just not included. The people that thought I had an English accent where actually visiting from England. I’ve heard this comes from German immigrants.I think Italians like Joey Vento might be more prone to use the non-rhotic sounds because of the high profile of the “Rocky” movies in tough-guy South Philly culture. How to Do a Philadelphia Accent | Accent Training - YouTube One example is in what’s called “Canadian raising” — a term that, in this case, means words like “prize” and “price” stop sounding the same. Then go to the beach (usually Wildwood, NJ).Earlier in a few posts it was suggested that Philadelphians landed in New York first which is why they sound similar. We would say “needs to be done” or “needs doing” (even that sounds a bit weird), but never “needs done”. In the very late nineteenth century until the 1950s, Philadelphia accents shifted to have more features in common with the then-emerging (and now-common) regional accents of the The vowels in Philadelphia speech have shown volatility across the last century, as Labov's research has identified changes affecting over half of the vowel phonemes.
I’ve also, conversely, heard that the non-rhotic speech comes from Italians rolling Rs, getting made fun of for it, and thus, dropping Rs.Strangely, I’ve also noticed that some African-American Philadelphians drop some Rs from a few words (mostly street names, I think, like Girard (“Garahhd”) and Westminster (said like “Westministuh”). Some funny things we all say.1) Gaw-head (this means “go ahead”), usually used when you are trying to let someone go in front of you with a shopping cart or a car. When I tell them I’m from Philly, they look incredulous. What’s really weird about radiator (rhymes with gladiator) is it is only used for what heats one’s home, but your car has a ray-DEE-a-tor (the correct pronunciation of the word).I will also say, if you talk to people from neighborhoods that no longer exist they way they once did, they have totally different accents than some of the other Philadelphians. West Central Illinois ≠ north west Illinois The people who told you that do not know what they’re talking about Nvm, I see now, a minor misreading didn’t help either ^_^; It’s like with kentucky all over gain. I can’t speak for the rest of the Midland though. There isn’t a single circle, representing a speaker, from my region on that map unfortunately.
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